life Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 You were #3 on memory and #7 on cpu for 2020-05-26.I have yesterday taken off two of my sites from Heliohost and reverted back to the earlier host. Let us see how the only one behaves now. As have been said by many, including yourselves Wordpress is resource heavy. However, I did not face similar issues while on the other (paid ) host, where I have many other plug-ins as well ( such as Wordfence, Jetpack... ) that I uninstalled at Heliohost . I think Heliohost should make clear at its signup page as well as various other places ( c-panel for instance) , that Wordpress is not encouraged by them and may lead to high CPU/Memory load and no site loads and account suspensions thereafter. You will appreciate, no doubt, that it is a hassle to migrate sites only to find that these risks are there. Clear warnings early on will be useful to newbies such as me ( who mostly use Wordpress since it is certainly easier then Joomla as I am finding out ) . It will also help those who just want to remain focused on content creation rather than learning details of memory management etc. since that is not their forte neither their plan going forward. Anyways, appreciate much yours and everyone's efforts and guidance- and will keep on asking for those till I am around :-) . I can understand that being a non-profit and offering free hosting has its limitations. Only that ample warning early on will help many like me.
Krydos Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 as well as various other places ( c-panel for instance) , that Wordpress is not encouraged by them and may lead to high CPU/Memory load and no site loads and account suspensions thereafter.From cpanel https://tommy.heliohost.org:2083/frontend/paper_lantern/load/index.live.php For instance Wordpress is responsible for a large majority of our high load suspensions because it is very resource hungry due to being poorly coded, and installing extensions just makes it even worse. A Wordpress site can easily top the charts with just a few hundred megabytes of traffic while a well written site can receive hundreds of gigabytes of traffic and not even come close to the same amount of load.Also every time wordpress is mentioned on the forums we strongly encourage people not to use it.
life Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 as well as various other places ( c-panel for instance) , that Wordpress is not encouraged by them and may lead to high CPU/Memory load and no site loads and account suspensions thereafter.From cpanel https://tommy.heliohost.org:2083/frontend/paper_lantern/load/index.live.phpFor instance Wordpress is responsible for a large majority of our high load suspensions because it is very resource hungry due to being poorly coded, and installing extensions just makes it even worse. A Wordpress site can easily top the charts with just a few hundred megabytes of traffic while a well written site can receive hundreds of gigabytes of traffic and not even come close to the same amount of load.Also every time wordpress is mentioned on the forums we strongly encourage people not to use it. Sure, but it is AFTER a person has signed up and is having high resource usage ( and probably has an account suspension ) that he reaches this page. Pretty much a similar statement, if made on the sign up page ( https://www.heliohost.org/) will be much more helpful. Forums are something that one usually joins/sees after one has signed up and is facing an issue.
wolstech Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 I personally wish we'd just ban WP and be done with it. It'd fix a lot of the load issues we see, but we'd also lose half of our users if we did.
life Posted May 27, 2020 Author Posted May 27, 2020 I personally wish we'd just ban WP and be done with it. It'd fix a lot of the load issues we see, but we'd also lose half of our users if we did.Well, you get some you lose some :-) No worries, you are doing a great job within the constraints that you have.
life Posted May 30, 2020 Author Posted May 30, 2020 Just for reference/ information if any chances on this thread, I have now taken off my third Wordpress site also off Heliohost and am now having there only a Joomla site that is there for learning purposes,
Luigi123 Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 Yes, you can use you Joomla, no problem at all than using the Wordpress. WP is just really badly written, It's the number one cause of weird errors, suspensions, and even Phishing bans. (usually when the hackers set up phishing on your account) A 500 error with WP is almost always due to installing defective, bloated, or simply too many plugins. It’s really terrible and it throws in a lot of errors and also a lot of hacks. We have a lot of users successfully installing Joomla on their sites and that is recommended. 1
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