[HH#115171] Re: Maybe VPS request

[HelioHost]

Username: N/A, Server: N/A, Main Domain: N/A

Hi there.
I currently have i think 5 or 6 domains w/ the company, Stablehost.com .
My hosting/ public visibility is currently suspended. my payment was due in
Dec, but they gave me some extra time because I complained of brain damage
(a genuine ... thing. injury i guess they call it). I can't complain. I
also can't afford it. Not at this time. I live alone, and have no one
helping me. I can't think straight after a few hours into the day. it's
like really brain fatigued. symptoms analog to "Havana Syndrome" (as there
was a doc on the Shatner show about that recently... ha! conspiracy)
It's been up for renewal but at 195/ year it's not something I really want
to commit to at this time. or am able to commit to.
I recently incurred brain damage due to mis-use of pregabalin (physician
error) and ... anyway.
point is. i can't figure out wha'ts goign on about a lot of stuff, and this
hosting thing is really giving me a headache.
I've been a hosting admin for years, partnered w/ who.host years ago.
but this is just weird condition. (Google it. "lyrica brain damage

memory fog")
what can you do for me?
I have 5 domains.
centrewebdesign.com (my web dev - a WP site but no one uses it!)
statecollegeguitarlessons.com (my guitar lessons service - people use this
site. it has a forum)
whatsonyourbrain.com (my blah blah site. WP site)
wordpresscenter.net ( tech / entertainment blog - WP Site)
neutility.life / neutility.store (ai research stuff WP Site)
Aside from them being WP Sites, i don't really have much published there.
i don't really know how i fare in comparison to others these days. when i
worked w/ wso.host / wso.net at the time, cPanel was just gaining real
popularity. so it was a while ago.
thank you,
Jeff <removed>

Edited February 4, 2025 by Krydos
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[Krydos]

Sounds like you've been through a lot. I'm glad you're still trying to keep your websites online, despite all the difficulties you've endured. I agree completely $195 per year for 5 websites seems like a lot.

We offer free shared hosting, paid shared hosting, and cheap VPS service. I can say that Wordpress tends to cause quite a bit of load so we see people get suspended for high load all the time on our free hosting with just a single Wordpress site, so that's really not going to be an option for 5 Wordpress sites. So that leaves the paid shared hosting, or cheap VPS options.

How much storage space do you need for these websites? How many megabytes of images and files do all 5 sites have combined?

[HelioHost]

Hey there! thank you for the prompt reply!

I have the sites pretty much mirrored on my dev server. so, given that
info:.
This is my setup on their shared hosting server. most of what you see there
just scrap accidentally uploaded.

when i worked with wso.host it was a VPS (i think. at least i thought it
was. but i was with him 2 diff times. and more thought, i think he put me
on shared hosting this second time around. i know VPS gives more
flexibility, but i'm not sure it's my best choice for value in my
situation.

What might you recommend?

# ncdu

1.2 GiB [################] /wordpresscenter.net
1.0 GiB [############## ] /public_html (centrewebdesign.com)
1.0 GiB [############## ] /statecollegeguitarlessons.com
646.1 MiB [######## ] /whatsonyourbrain.com
256.4 MiB [### ] /neutility
217.5 MiB [## ] /jeffbook (unnecessary)
167.7 MiB [## ] /cw.neutility.store (unnecessary)
111.2 MiB [# ] /backup-12.24.2023_17-12-31_centreweb
(unnecessary)
99.7 MiB [# ] /adbpsrnow (unnecessary)
59.3 MiB [ ] neutility.tar.gz (unnecessary)
50.0 MiB [ ] /giterator (unnecessary)
23.5 MiB [ ] /wordpress.xml
11.1 MiB [ ] /assets
3.4 MiB [ ]
direct-Neutility_2024-06-13_01_12_11_kwxgyHmYD025rE6i.zip (unnecessary)
3.4 MiB [ ]
Neutility_2024-06-13_01_12_11_kwxgyHmYD025rE6i.zip (unnecessary)
2.4 MiB [ ] /access-logs
1.2 MiB [ ] scgl.XML
448.0 KiB [ ] msedge_JwDndbn4id.png
420.0 KiB [ ] /public
360.0 KiB [ ] adminer.phtml
152.0 KiB [ ] msedge_OqGhsACVqL.png
80.0 KiB [ ] jeffrey-sabarese-personality-type.png
76.0 KiB [ ] CSATS.htm
68.0 KiB [ ] favicon.ico
64.0 KiB [ ] floorp_wZTAkQG06E.png
52.0 KiB [ ] entities.html
48.0 KiB [ ] tree.html
48.0 KiB [ ] unicode_misc_symbols.phtml
40.0 KiB [ ] waterfox_vHhPZDnbLL.png
40.0 KiB [ ] favicon.png
40.0 KiB [ ] /.ssh
36.0 KiB [ ] .zcompdump
36.0 KiB [ ] LICENSE.txt
28.0 KiB [ ] gpg-demo.phtml
28.0 KiB [ ] p2u2.phtml
24.0 KiB [ ] p2u2vscodecolors.phtml
20.0 KiB [ ] /.subaccounts
20.0 KiB [ ] adminer_demo.html
16.0 KiB [ ] graphic_design_stuff.phtml
16.0 KiB [ ] graphic_design.php
16.0 KiB [ ] .bash_history
16.0 KiB [ ] /neutilitystore

Thanks for reading! Sorry. I got distracted because ... of brain damage /
looking for that info. .pshaw! playing around w/ tree (html filetree)!

Thank you for your help!

Best regards,
Jeff <removed>


On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 3:14?PM HelioHost Support
wrote:

> Sounds like you've been through a lot. I'm glad you're still trying to
> keep your websites online, despite all the difficulties you've endured. I
> agree completely $195 per year for 5 websites seems like a lot. We offer
> free shared hosting, paid shared hosting, and cheap VPS service. I can say
> that Wordpress tends to cause quite a bit of load so we see people get
> suspended for high load all the time on our free hosting with just a single
> Wordpress site, so that's really not going to be an option for 5 Wordpress
> sites. So that leaves the paid shared hosting, or cheap VPS options. How
> much storage space do you need for these websites? How many megabytes of
> images and files do all 5 sites have combined?
>
> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>
> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>
> Thank you,
> HelioHost support
> https://heliohost.org/
> https://helionet.org/
>
>@heliohost.org>
 

[Krydos]

It looks like you have about 4 GB of data right now, so I would recommend either trying Morty or a Mercury VPS.

Morty is shared hosting with Plesk control panel which starts at $1 per month and scales to your needs so if your website has very little traffic it will bill the minimum, but if you have a lot more traffic for a few days it will bill more for those days. The maximum storage for this plan is 7 GB so your 4 GB of data would fit. This plan doesn't come with any SSH access though. It would cost $21 up front to start a Morty account with 4 GB storage, and then you would get up to 6 months of credit depending on how much load your website caused each day and how much traffic you get. After that you can add another 6 months for $5. The billing for Morty can be a little confusing for people because it scales like that so maybe too much of a headache for you to think about. If your websites have a lot of traffic the $5 wouldn't last a full 6 months, for instance.

Another option is the Mercury VPS plan which bills a constant $4 per month no matter how much traffic your websites get. It doesn't come with Plesk control panel though unless you pay an additional $15.50 per month for a total of $19.50 per month, but we can install a free control panel called Hestia, or you can just use SSH to install stuff from the command line. The Mercury plan comes with a dedicated 1 GB memory so we can see how well your 5 Wordpress sites perform. Then if they are too slow or the load is too high we can upgrade to a faster VPS easily.

Either way, you'll be paying far less than $195 per year with either of the above options. Also we can help you get your websites transferred over if you're having trouble with it. Just let us know how we can help.

[HelioHost]

Thank you kindly for your generous support!

PS. I attached this report from a disk size utility thing: you'd asked
about a file type. images or something.. again. ... stuf fin there. i mean,
that's a "Local folder", but should give you a better idea. i think the
mail folder might be present there as well. too much work to try to
remember, and it's prob not important.

You said " The Mercury plan comes with a dedicated 1 GB memory so we can
see how well your 5 Wordpress sites perform. Then if they are too slow or
the load is too high we can upgrade to a faster VPS easily. Either way,
you'll be paying far less than $195 per year with either of the above
options. Also we can help you get your websites transferred over if you're
having trouble with it. Just let us know how we can help."

If I understand correctly, I can get started w/ this Mercury VPS for $4/mo
== $48 for 12 months?
I'd have SSH access, the option for a "free" cpanel type management
interface.

What about the domain names?

I see they have disabled cPanel access for me. that's kinda f'd up, but i
guess i get it. i probably have everything archived so i could start
uploading stuff.
They do hold few of my domain names. maybe 4 of the 6 (2 of which will
point to same).

I'll prob be good w/ just SSH. that's how i do my dev servers, and i never
have any problems. seems like this is def the way i'm going to go.

a "no brainer" so to speak.

any bonuses for aging rockstars w/ brain damage?
https://jeffsabarese.bandcamp.com
haha... kidding.

what do i need to do to get started. coincidentally, I lost my debit card,
but i can provide the routing/ acct number to same acct. new debit card
wont arrive until 10 business days (today).

thank you so much for such a personalized experienced. it is much
appreciated, considering my confusion about things in general.

Best regards,
Jeff Sabarese

Many thanks!



On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 6:37?PM HelioHost Support
wrote:

> It looks like you have about 4 GB of data right now, so I would recommend
> either trying Morty or a Mercury VPS. Morty is shared hosting with Plesk
> control panel which starts at $1 per month and scales to your needs so if
> your website has very little traffic it will bill the minimum, but if you
> have a lot more traffic for a few days it will bill more for those days.
> The maximum storage for this plan is 7 GB so your 4 GB of data would fit.
> This plan doesn't come with any SSH access though. It would cost $21 up
> front to start a Morty account with 4 GB storage, and then you would get up
> to 6 months of credit depending on how much load your website caused each
> day and how much traffic you get. After that you can add another 6 months
> for $5. The billing for Morty can be a little confusing for people because
> it scales like that so maybe too much of a headache for you to think about.
> If your websites have a lot of traffic the $5 wouldn't last a full 6
> months, for instance. Another option is the Mercury VPS plan which bills a
> constant $4 per month no matter how much traffic your websites get. It
> doesn't come with Plesk control panel though unless you pay an additional
> $15.50 per month for a total of $19.50 per month, but we can install a free
> control panel called Hestia, or you can just use SSH to install stuff from
> the command line. The Mercury plan comes with a dedicated 1 GB memory so we
> can see how well your 5 Wordpress sites perform. Then if they are too slow
> or the load is too high we can upgrade to a faster VPS easily. Either way,
> you'll be paying far less than $195 per year with either of the above
> options. Also we can help you get your websites transferred over if you're
> having trouble with it. Just let us know how we can help.
>
> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>
> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>
> Thank you,
> HelioHost support
> https://heliohost.org/
> https://helionet.org/
>
>

[Krydos]

If you want to signup for 6 months or more at a time we can give you a 10% discount. So the Mercury VPS is $21.60 for 6 months, or $43.20 for 12 months. Yes, you would have root SSH access, and we can install a free cPanel type control panel called Hestia. Actual cPanel is very expensive, but Hestia is an open-source free alternative.

I checked one of your domains and it looks like it is registered with namesrs.com? Do you recognize that website? In order to host your domains, you'll need to find a way to change the NS records. Right now they're pointed at stablehost.com but you would need to change them to ns1.heliohost.org and ns2.heliohost.org and then we can take care of everything else. If you have an account on the website namesrs.com you should be able to login and change the NS records.

As far as routing number and account number go, first of all, don't email them to us. Once we have decided which plan you want to go with, and for how long we will give you a link to pay. I just checked with our financial processor and it looks like we can accept payments through routing number and account number, but it may take up to 4 days to verify. If you wait for your debit card to arrive you can pay and it can be verified instantly.

[HelioHost]

Thank you very much for your generous offering!

Did you catch the part about I don't have a "mastercard number" at the
moment? I had to order a new card today of all days. But, I could link to
the ... bank routing. i think i owe PayPal a whole bunch for a credit thing
... omg it's prob double what i paid for it. anyway.
i could prob transfer funds to my paypal to complete/ process the
transaction. let me know if you have options.

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Ooops
then Unlocked...
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I'll process that on the remaining domain names.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 11:03?PM HelioHost Support
wrote:

> If you want to signup for 6 months or more at a time we can give you a 10%
> discount. So the Mercury VPS is $21.60 for 6 months, or $43.20 for 12
> months. Yes, you would have root SSH access, and we can install a free
> cPanel type control panel called Hestia. Actual cPanel is very expensive,
> but Hestia is an open-source free alternative. I checked one of your
> domains and it looks like it is registered with namesrs.com? Do you
> recognize that website? In order to host your domains, you'll need to find
> a way to change the NS records. Right now they're pointed at
> stablehost.com but you would need to change them to ns1.heliohost.org and
> ns2.heliohost.org and then we can take care of everything else. If you
> have an account on the website namesrs.com you should be able to login
> and change the NS records. As far as routing number and account number go,
> first of all, don't email them to us. Once we have decided which plan you
> want to go with, and for how long we will give you a link to pay. I just
> checked with our financial processor and it looks like we can accept
> payments through routing number and account number, but it may take up to 4
> days to verify. If you wait for your debit card to arrive you can pay and
> it can be verified instantly.
>
> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>
> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>
> Thank you,
> HelioHost support
> https://heliohost.org/
> https://helionet.org/
>
>

[Krydos]

Yes, I did catch the part about not having a Mastercard number right now. That's why I was saying you could pay with your routing number and account number. Here is a payment link that will allow you to pay $21.60 with your routing number and account number for a Mercury VPS for 6 months with a 10% discount off our normal price. Please be aware that it will probably take 4-14 days for the money to get to us with this payment method.

https://buy.stripe.com/5kAaEWf8t68GeKkdQQ

Let us know if you have any trouble with the link.

[HelioHost]

Hi there!

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I'm not 100% certain what's going on here, as per the agreement being a
"subscription", but... I suppose it's reasonable to call it a subscription
in any case.
Subscribing as a member who has committed to a pledge of XX.xx .
:)

Sect 501(c) non-profit? Did you know that makes you eligible for Student
Loan Forgiveness?.
LOL. i thought i read 501-c somewhere. I used to work for the Dept of Ed as
a Student Loan Counselor.

Cheers.
What is my next step?

Thank you!

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 10:20?AM HelioHost Support
wrote:

> Yes, I did catch the part about not having a Mastercard number right now.
> That's why I was saying you could pay with your routing number and account
> number. Here is a payment link that will allow you to pay $21.60 with your
> routing number and account number for a Mercury VPS for 6 months with a 10%
> discount off our normal price. Please be aware that it will probably take
> 4-14 days for the money to get to us with this payment method.
> https://buy.stripe.com/5kAaEWf8t68GeKkdQQ Let us know if you have any
> trouble with the link.
>
> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>
> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>
> Thank you,
> HelioHost support
> https://heliohost.org/
> https://helionet.org/
>
>

[HelioHost]

Hi there, HelioHost Support Personnel!

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just wanted to show: it looks like my payment is all setup!

Wow! I'm thoroughly impressed. You guys have that setup so well. I suppose
it stands to reason, if you're a group of "hobbyists" so to speak.
That's the kind of operation I want to be involved with. Something for
real, where people know what they're doing. Like I said, I worked for PHEAA
for 5 years. FBI clearance and all (Federal Student Loan Counselr).

You ever try to do something, 2FA w/ the GVT? the send to that ID.me b/s
etc. takes goddamn fifteen minutes to enter your date of birth n shit
(exaggerating of course). Jimminy Krissmus!! lol.

Anyway. that's super cool. I'm pretty sure you're legit.

*So what's the story behind HelioHost? *
*E.g. being a non-profit etc? *
Interesting.

I wonder if this is something I might become involved in more personally.
E.g. haha. i'd send you to my website, but well... haha. i guess we're
working on that together.
Was gonna tell you to goolge "Jeff Sabarese Penn State site:psucollegian.com"
- demo of my involvement in the community back in the day.
https://presearch.com/search?q=+sabarese+site%3Apsucollegian.com

I've run Litespeed servers, but I'm more an NGINX guy. i guess i should
have told you that before you setup the VPS.

My "current' host uses LiteSpeed, and apparently knows how to tune it. I
haven't played w/ Litespeed since before studying Nginx. I know it's closer
to Apache2 than NGINX, but ... i am more of a .conf file type guy, and the
whole LSWS (am i rem that right? hehe) web console admin interface--- threw
me off.
Plus, i was outta smoke.
?



On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 3:14?PM HelioHost Support
wrote:

> Sounds like you've been through a lot. I'm glad you're still trying to
> keep your websites online, despite all the difficulties you've endured. I
> agree completely $195 per year for 5 websites seems like a lot. We offer
> free shared hosting, paid shared hosting, and cheap VPS service. I can say
> that Wordpress tends to cause quite a bit of load so we see people get
> suspended for high load all the time on our free hosting with just a single
> Wordpress site, so that's really not going to be an option for 5 Wordpress
> sites. So that leaves the paid shared hosting, or cheap VPS options. How
> much storage space do you need for these websites? How many megabytes of
> images and files do all 5 sites have combined?
>
> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>
> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>
> Thank you,
> HelioHost support
> https://heliohost.org/
> https://helionet.org/

[Krydos]

I see your payment in the system. The next step is to go to https://heliohost.org/password/ and submit a username and password that you would like to use for your VPS.

[HelioHost]

cool. moving right along!

:)

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On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 5:13?PM HelioHost Support
wrote:

> I see your payment in the system. The next step is to go to
> https://heliohost.org/password/ and submit a username and password that
> you would like to use for your VPS.
>
> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>
> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>
> Thank you,
> HelioHost support
> https://heliohost.org/
> https://helionet.org/
>
>

[HelioHost]

Question:
being a VPS, does that mean i'll have access to some APT capabilities? i
know even that crap acct i had w/ that other co for 200/ yr , i had SSH.
but i don't think i was actually supposed to have that (shared hosting?).
anyway. but i managed to install and use NPM on there somehow. i'm
thinking-- while ne knows how to tune the Litespeed pretty well-- i don't
think he pays attention to anything else. Seriously. LOL. but, that's
a novella i dont wish to write.

Point being (brain damage), ... so, just having SSH ... and w/out APT
capabilities doesn't do a whole lot. i guess rsync n what not to do
remote transfers.

I'm trying to rem what's about the VPS that makes it so much more (like a
"no brainer" kind oof ) much more sweet.
Is it run in a container, like docker? Is that basically what a person
gets? a containerized Linux system? memory loss ain't no joke. :(
it's like. hmm. yeah. i kind of remember that character, who was Batman's
rival in that one weird episode most people never saw. remember that guy?
(i'm making this up, of course. not to entertain you, as much, as to ...
emphasize. i suppose) be well!

Where can I go to investigate that sort of info. What's that ... whatever,
cPanel type thing? I was going to install it on my servers to see what I
make of it, and get a handle on that/ whether i want to / need to bother
with it.
i rarely use any of the cPanel stuff to be honest. SSH keys maybe 'cause
it's easy.
email stuff i suppose. but you know. most people use Gmail anyway. lol.

dunno how far along you are on initializing the acct.
just wanted to say, my typical setup is
MX-Linux 21 / 23
NGINX
MariaDB
PHP 8.2 (or whatever)
Python 3.11 (etc)
NPM (optional - never use it of course)
Composer (optional - never use but nice to have)

Ubuntu would be fine. When I do the Windows Subsystem for Linux, i always
just use Debian.

The WSO.host guy uses CentOS. I started on Fedora, so CentOS is n/p for me
either.
it's whatever. haha. i've been messing w/ Arch -- EndeavorOS and Garuda .
good stuf!
:D

thank you!!




On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:28?PM J Sabarese wrote:

> cool. moving right along!
>
> :)
>
> [image: vivaldi_y9udnCu3Zf.png]
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 5:13?PM HelioHost Support
> wrote:
>
>> I see your payment in the system. The next step is to go to
>> https://heliohost.org/password/ and submit a username and password that
>> you would like to use for your VPS.
>>
>> You may view the status of your ticket by visiting:
>>
>> https://helionet.org/index/index.php?showtopic=63509
>>
>> Thank you,
>> HelioHost support
>> https://heliohost.org/
>> https://helionet.org/
>>
>>

[HelioHost]

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:37?PM J Sabarese wrote:

>
> just wanted to say, my typical setup is
> MX-Linux 21 / 23
> NGINX
> MariaDB
> PHP 8.2 (or whatever)
> Python 3.11 (etc)
>
sorry. zoned out.
i don't think i was advised of Python software being part of the setup. so
i'm not expecting it or goign to be disappointed.
PHP assumed.
Python, typically not. and i'm cool w/out it. playing around w/ it of
course (data sci n all. AI etc) - it would be cool to have!

[HelioHost]

Username: N/A, Server: N/A, Main Domain: N/A

BTW thank you!
About these sites. It's kind of ridiculous for me to have 5 wordpress
sites. haha. i mean. it makes sense on one hand. but i really could
consolidate at least 2 of them. prob want to keep the guitar lessons site
to itself.
the whatsonyourbrain.com is like prose/poetry and bullshit ramblings. the
wordpresscenter.net is similar, but more like the version you'd show in an
interview/ resume. So, no talk of cocaine there. LOL! but those could be
consolidated.
i realize w/ WP Custom Post types, mutli-site n shit it can be easier. but
"more harder" too, as the say in pittsburgh. have the domains point to
specific CPT's or some shit. i don't feel like messing w/ that. but.
probably could consolidate the what's on your brain, and the wordpress
center. it's all a bunch of bullshit that means very little to anyone
besides myself, and even he grows bored with it all. battling with the AI
between inspiration/ fascination/ suicidal ideation! haha. it rhymed,
Marge. You know it rhymed.

the neutility thing is ... something i threw online because i am sick of
these "LLM Trainer" companies spewing so much bullshit from their face
cheeks.
who knows. that's about the time i experienced the brain damage. id say i
need to have the neutility.life site. that's the one i have at namecheap i
think.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 3:06?PM Jsabarese wrote:

> ...
> what can you do for me?
>
> I have 5 domains.
>
> centrewebdesign.com (my web dev - a WP site but no one uses it!)
> statecollegeguitarlessons.com (my guitar lessons service - people use
> this site. it has a forum)
> whatsonyourbrain.com (my blah blah site. WP site)
> wordpresscenter.net ( tech / entertainment blog - WP Site)
> neutility.life / neutility.store (ai research stuff WP Site)
>
> Aside from them being WP Sites, i don't really have much published there.
> i don't really know how i fare in comparison to others these days. when i
> worked w/ wso.host / wso.net at the time, cPanel was just gaining real
> popularity. so it was a while ago.
>
>