mrj Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Need answers from experts. As your opinion, which server sided language is best (as available in heliohost) for website? Please post your answer here. It will be nice if you write the reason for your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolstech Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Php is the most popular and the easiest to use. You don’t need to request it, we support multiple versions, and it’s well documented. It’s also supported nearly everywhere, so you can take your code with you easily if you later decide to move hosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krydos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Yeah, php. Despite how old fashioned it is and all of it's flaws it's definitely the most widely used, and any web-based job you get is going to look at you really weird in the interview if you don't know php. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 PHP is the easiest by far, but with a bit of research and extra knowledge, Node.js and Django (for example) are frameworks that use everyday languages such as JavaScript and Python. And in the long run may be easier to maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krydos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 which server sided language is best (as available in heliohost) for website?Node.jsI agree that it is a pretty cool idea, but node.js is not currently available on any of our servers. We do have plans on implementing it some day though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Ah, I wasnt aware that any new software actually needed to be installed as I have only really learn Django but have been told through 3rd partys that Node.js was a good alternative. Sorry about the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrj Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I have googled for pretty much time. As some blog they said that MySQL is the fastest of all server sided language. After that, java is the fastest. As MySQL is for Database management, my opinion is Java is the fastest language. In some blog, they say Java page might take a bit longer to load for first time. But it will load faster next time. Each time we modify a java page, it will take a bit time.https://www.infoworld.com/article/2609675/java/surprise--java-is-fastest-for-server-side-web-apps.htmlhttps://www.sitepoint.com/whats-the-best-programming-language-to-learn-in-2017/https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/the-2017-top-programming-languagesI have also tested same script in two languages. PHP and Java. Java file loaded faster than PHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 But how much faster? If its 2 seconds faster then thats amazing but if its 0.2 seconds faster then no one will notice the difference. When picking a language youve got to look at not only the speed but the learn-ability, whether it runs on all servers etc. Like we all said, PHP is fast (maybe not the fastest) but its easy to learn, easily available on operating systems and easy to edit. From what I understand Java needs to be compiled and then uploaded from your working device (PC) and cant be edited on the go through FTP. However, you can edit PHP anywhere because it doesnt need to be compiled as its just essentially a text file.I dont know much about Java but PHP is a powerful language that I would always use, and I do over at https://Bailey.cf and https://harryh.cf I personally find that its a simple language that can be used in simple applications but also manipulated to become an extremely powerful backend language. To sum up what that all means: I would recommend PHP even though it may be (a little bit) slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrj Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 But how much faster? If its 2 seconds faster then thats amazing but if its 0.2 seconds faster then no one will notice the difference. When picking a language youve got to look at not only the speed but the learn-ability, whether it runs on all servers etc. Like we all said, PHP is fast (maybe not the fastest) but its easy to learn, easily available on operating systems and easy to edit. From what I understand Java needs to be compiled and then uploaded from your working device (PC) and cant be edited on the go through FTP. However, you can edit PHP anywhere because it doesnt need to be compiled as its just essentially a text file.I dont know much about Java but PHP is a powerful language that I would always use, and I do over at https://Bailey.cf and https://harryh.cf I personally find that its a simple language that can be used in simple applications but also manipulated to become an extremely powerful backend language.Your points are right. I agree with you. But sometimes a page never takes more than 2 second to load. So 2 second faster is impossible thing. Loading 0.2 second faster will obviously effect performance. PHP is easier. Even my site is built with php. But I believe a good programmer should learn more than one language. I want to be a hardcore programmer in future. And in servers java don't need to be compiled before run. It's the server thing. .JSP file is pure plain text. Believe me or not, I created and managing my site via a smartphone. I don't have a pc! I used to learn programming from online and test them via complier app or my site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 In the early days, I did the same thing with my phone but now I have a laptop so its easier and I learnt all of my languages through my phone, I still do. Also, the 2 seconds was just an example of how a faster speed doesnt mean everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrj Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 Thank you for your opinion. I hope very soon I will get a laptop and a credit card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krydos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I stick with my recommendation of php for server side languages, but if you open up the question to all languages for all purposes then java wins. It's used in the most number of applications worldwide. Java can run on pretty much any device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrj Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I stick with my recommendation of php for server side languages, but if you open up the question to all languages for all purposes then java wins.Yeah. For developing any apps for Android, PC or Games etc Java is the best. Java is old but it's popularity getting increased day by day. Also java server pages could be used to cross platforms. On the other hand, ASP.NET, Mono those are based on Microsoft frameworks. Nowadays developers love open source. That's why java is the best. I love java on web Programming because java is fast and have the power of Java. Some peoples are talking about python. Recently python getting popular. Did you notice that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 In my opinion, Python has always been popular and it’s the first language I learnt. It’s what got me into coding about 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krydos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Yeah, python is supposedly the easiest language to learn for new programmers. It has a lot of powerful frameworks for various things including websites. I've said it before, but if I was to make the HelioHost homepage all over again I might seriously consider using Django. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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