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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful This thread is so interesting I hope you all are enjoying it as much as I am Brother cluelusshusbund I'll try my best to answer all your questions But first you have to decide that if I can convince you that Islam is the truth & that my answers have a ringing of truth in them than you will accept Islam Since you are intellectually convinced against a belief in God, I will if God willing, convince you otherwise Human beings were not created flawed At least Islam does not believe that I've already quotes verses from the Nobel Qur'an that tell you that free will is granted to Humans God only punishes people who received His message yet chose to reject it. If you are convinced that Islam is from God & you received its message, yet out of pride & arrogance do not accept it, you will be punished Such is the justice of the Almighty that he says in the Qur'an, مَّنِ اهْتَدَى فَإِنَّمَا يَهْتَدي لِنَفْسِهِ وَمَن ضَلَّ فَإِنَّمَا يَضِلُّ عَلَيْهَا وَلاَ تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَى وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَ حَتَّى نَبْعَثَ رَسُول Qur'an 17:15 Abdullah Yusuf Ali Translation - Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benefit: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss: No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent an apostle (to give warning). Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall Translation - Whosoever goeth right, it is only for (the good of) his own soul that he goeth right, and whosoever erreth, erreth only to its hurt. No laden soul can bear another's load. We never punish until We have sent a messenger. Sahih International Translation - Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger. The belief in freewill is essential for goodness & betterment is a society Without it no one could be blamed For example, If i was to enter your house & rob you blind. Then I was to kill your relatives & the police came If you were to take me to court I could say that I had no freewill & I was destined for it If you do not believe in freewill than by asking punishment for me you would be acting as a hypocrite Freewill is a reality I am moving my fingers on my laptop & you are reading my article You are choosing to do it To reject something which you feel is foolishness Punishments for the bad only The universality for punishment of evil is itself proof for its existence Evil is an entity & a quality Though nothing is "purely" evil If there is nothing evil that you have no problem with the murder of hundreds of innocents ? Tell me have you ever lost a loved one by the hand of another ? If you did you would know that Hell is not evil The reason why there is evil and injustice in this world is that some of us choose them. We are capable of choosing goodness or evil. The choice of evil inevitably causes injustice and suffering. Nothing happens, however, without God's permission. God allows suffering to happen for a variety of reasons that are consistent with His comprehensive knowledge and fairness. Some suffering is a test of faith, other suffering is a punishment of sin. The suffering of others is a reminder to us of our own vulnerabilities and to be thankful to God for sparing us. The best way to express thanks to God is to alleviate suffering, correct injustice and fight evil. People are not punished for believing in something which they consider the truth. People are punished because they have rejected faith even though they were convinced that it is true. Ahhhh ... God is not the creator of evil. God is the creator of man & of freewill. Evil exists because of our misuse of our freewill. For example rape occurs because people misuse the freewill they were granted with by God. Starvation occurs because people do not give the poor due to the misuse of their freewill. Here is a very interesting story about evil. Thus it is the lack of good ( God's religion ) that causes evil. In Islam worship is not a set of rituals. Ibadah ( Arabic for worship ) means to submit to God willingly & follow his way in every matter willingly. You also follow God's way. When you eat you follow his will but unwillingly. There are numerous reasons why God needs to be worshiped. The best would be to get a copy of the Qur'an & read yourself. To give a few, He is the All-Wise & thus his way is the wisest. His way is the way of good & who does not want to be good. Not following His way will give you hell. Only 2.5 % of the worlds population is atheist. God made the universe come into existence in the form of the Big Bang ( the Qur'an mentioned the Big Bang almost 1400 years ago ). Even if Humans evolved ( Difference of opinion among Muslims Scholars ), who did it ? Who instated the principal of natural selection ? Who made the laws of Physics come into existence ? God did it ! If you believe my beliefs to be right & yet cover the truth due to arrogance, you wil be doomed to hell.

Islam recognizies freedom of speech & I request the Mods to allow cluelusshusbund to say his mind. Before we continue could I please know your religious affiliation ? I'm guessing Atheist. There is difference of opinion amongst Islamic scholars about the validity of stoning the adulterers. Some say that only people who commit anti-social crimes like rape should be stoned to death, others ( majority ) say that any married person who commits adultery should be stoned to death. But this punishment is valid only in an Islamic Society with Islamic laws. In such a society commiting sins is very difficult as the environment is Islamic ( no porn, skinny clothes e.t.c ). As for its being Humane or not. This punishment is not only a part of Islamic law. Its a part of both the Jewish & Christian tradition ( If you want I can quote the bible ). Furthermore a vast majority of the world has punishments of this nature. For punishment to be given you need to have 4 witnesses which are very unlikely to be present in a case like adultery. Another thing you have to notice is that by logic, your thinking it to be evil is of no value. Just think, if God the All Wise ordains a punishment, how then can you as a man with limited intellectual capacity challenge it ? Furthermore, Islam is not a system of penal law. It is a complete system of life which is perfect in every sphere. The Prophet Muhammad ( may the peace & blessing of God be upon him ) spent the first 13 years of his life as a prophet preaching only faith. Islamic law when applied in an Islamic society brings such a sight as never seen before. The people during the time of the Prophet ( may the peace & blessing of God be upon him ) used to come to him & ask him to stone them to death so that they may receive punishment in this world instead of the hereafter. Yet such was his nature that he used to make excuses for them (due to compassion), yet they testified against themselves. I completely agree with you Praise be to God, who has not made Islam like this. In Islam we have been told that we are granted the freedom to chose which path we want to take. God the Almighty has created us with the ability to chose. No one died for my sins, I do good I go to heaven, I do bad I go to Hell. Waiting for your reply & more questions Brother Hassan P.S Thanks for asking me about my religion. Think about it Krydos, can there be more than one God ? If not than can all religions except one be false ? No ! God is one. The same God of Jesus, the God of Moses, the God of Abraham, the God of Muhammad ( peace be upon them all ). Every religion teaches the same thing, God is one ! He has revealed different prophets with the same message, yet there followers are the ones who have corrupted there religion. Is it worth the risk ? Would it not be better to look into religion & recognize God before its too late ? Death will come, are you going to risk the events after it ? If you learned Arabic I'm guessing 80% chances you would become Muslim. The Qur'an is a miracle of the Arabic language. It was the main miracle of Muhammad ( may the peace & blessing of God be upon him ) to the Arabs. He used to be an unlettered shepard, then suddenly he recited a book of such eloquence that till today not a single chapter of it has been mimicked in rhythm & style. Take a look at http://www.theinimitablequran.com.

I hope you don't I'm quite enjoying it Well, I can speak only for Islam Muslims believe that all Human beings have been granted freewill by Allah/God to chose what they want to do The creator created you & you should follow him The choice is yours to make if you do good, you will be rewarded If not ... then you will be punished Allah/God says in the Qur'an, وَقُلِ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ فَمَن شَاء فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَاء فَلْيَكْفُرْ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ نَارًا أَحَاطَ بِهِمْ سُرَادِقُهَا وَإِن يَسْتَغِيثُوا يُغَاثُوا بِمَاء كَالْمُهْلِ يَشْوِي الْوُجُوهَ بِئْسَ الشَّرَابُ وَسَاءتْ مُرْتَفَقًا Qur'an 18:29 Abdullah Yusuf Ali Translation - Say, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on! Sahih International Translaion - And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place. Furthermore, if the creator did not judge than that would bring equal the good & the bad What greater evil could there be than to consider good & bad equal ? Think of it If a murderer was not put in hell & treated the same way as a pious doctor who saves the lives of others, would it not be injustice ? Would it not be evil ? Also by calling a creator who is judgmental a monster, you are indirectly calling a huge number of people monsters Does not every parent create ( though of course in a lesser degree than God ) ? Do parents not judge their children ? Any more questions ? We worship for it is indeed the purpose of our creation Allah says in the Qur'an, وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ Qur'an 51:56 Abdullah Yusuf Ali Translation - I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me. Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall Translation - I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me. Sahih International Translation - And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me. The Arabic term for worship is 'ibadah (عبادة) It is usually translated as "worship" though is used in the Islamic context to mean ultimate obedience, the ultimate submission, and the ultimate humility to Allah (God) along with the ultimate love for Him.

Thats for God to decide We have been told that people who realize the truth & yet reject it due to there own desires are going to be punished by God People who are sincere and good will be rewarded by Him

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Assalamu Alaikum ( Peace Be On You ) What do you guys think about Islam ? What do you know about it ? Have you read the Qur'an ( Holy book of Muslims ) ? Just curious ...

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I guess everyone has there own answer to this question ... For me it would be to worship God

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