AverageJoe

I used to chat only on IRC via the free xchat. However, as of recently I've joined a dev team which does a lot of their talking on on steam chat (as it's a half life 2 mod we're making). Other than that I think im clients are pointless. I would much rather use irc and pm someone or talk in a specific channel.

I think it would also be beneficial if points weren't given out for movie reviews. You did say that you were trying to attract a more mature/professional crowd. I really don't think that a thread on every movie ever made is going to help. Those types of threads are just made so people can make posts simply for helions.

Since this is a web hosting forum I think that threads should be about web-development/hosting/design and maybe a few other intelligent subjects.

I remember my english teacher would never allow me to use wikipedia as a source. (I got my info from it anyways). You can always tell if it's accurate by going to the sources which have been sited.

Anyways, she said that anyone could go on an edit it. She said that web-sites were reliable because "just anyone" couldn't edit it. So just to prove her wrong I made a temp site (looked legit) made my own source for my own project turned it in got a B (because I told her about my site she dropped me a letter grade). The site included absolutely no valid information

All in all, she was an idiot with computers (which tends to po me), so I got her back =P

Joe

AverageJoe: why do both? If you disallow forum games, that clears the way for intelligent discussion. Why not allow those discussions to accumulate points and posts?

Forum games aren't the only type of spam. Next it would be what <insert item here> do you like, or some other off-subject, non intelligent, conversation. The only way I can see to allow helions on that forum is to strongly enforce a no spam policy. That would mean locking/deleting all the game threads and unnecessary threads.

AverageJoe: I would have replied to your PM, but IPB wouldn't let me for some reason.

No problem.

I think you should do both. Though if you do the latter I'm sure idiotic threads such as "change the letter" and "change the letter 2" will not get many more replies. After all you must really have no life if you spend your spare time changing letters on a forum for no reason.

Are you planning on updating free-webhosts.com as well. From the looks of it, if you add that ads are no longer required then you should be bumped up to the number 1 host spot (since having ads deducts 10 points from your overall score and you are 5 from the lead).

I allowed my old hosting to run out, so I'm going to need to sign up again. When can I sign up again and be assured that my new account is on the new server?

Also on a side note, do you know how long it will be before you get python up and running? (are you going to install django as well)

Joe

I saw a few good ones, though I don't want mine to be centered around just games (I make other gui and console based programs as well).

Feel free to notify any of them who would be interested in my offer.

Again if it's really professional looking I'll give up an extra 15-20k helions.

Well helions are an added incentive. I just don't want someone to give me a free one (and it be crappy) and wonder why I don't use it. ie if I really like it I'll give 20-25k helions for it. 10,000 is just what you will get if it meets the requirements and is nicer than the others.

I'm a horrible artists, so I was hoping I could get someone to design a web-site template for me. I'm planning on using it with the python/django framework when djbob get's it working. It's going to display my portfolio and previous work so that I can link to it in job apps. I'm going to give the 10,000 helions to the person with the template which I like best. It's best if you have a main page template as well as a gallery template, so I can show screenies of games/programs I have worked on/made.

Things to consider:

• I don't want a black emo looking website.
• I want my site to load relatively fast (ie the whole thing should not be images).
• I don't want any flash.
• Should be valid xhmtl 1.0.
• Should have a class for images and links so the links aren't blue and the images show up at appropriate sizes or whatever (I shouldn't have to change anything about the template to do what I want with it).
• I won't be impressed by stupid marques/glowing text/ and other noobish stuff.
• The site must look professional.

Good luck,

Joe

Evolution has to be real or else we humans wouldn't exist since we evolved from monkeys, right?

Actually the theory of evolution clearly states that we did not evolve from a monkey, we simply shared a common ancestor. Many people have many common misconceptions about the theory as they don't spend the time to actually learn what it is about.

I don't know why evolution is still considered a theory... Scientists have actually observed it happening on insects and things with very short lifespans. Surely that is evidence enough? Let alone all the fossil evidence there is!

Because it is science. Science is never one-hundred percent sure. Laws only exist in mathematical equations. If any theory were to become a law, that would mean that everything (100%) of it must be fact. The truth of the matter is that will never happen. Even the theory of gravity is constantly changing. We will always build on our current knowledge base and make changes and revisions to our theories, no matter how trivial they are.

BTW: If there actually is a god, I really hope he didn't say "Let there be light" and all that neat stuff. I wouldn't want my god to be insane and talk to himself.

First, you say you should make code that can compile and run on any platform. Why? What if your target contains only Windows users? What do you have to gain from platform independence?

You do have me there. If your using some sort of api which is platform dependent (which I myself am doing right now as I'm on a dev team for a HL2MP mod).

Generally, platform independent languages run far slower (case in point: Java) because of their constraints.

Generally, with the exception of the .net framework and assembly, most programming languages are platform dependent. I could compile the same c++/c/java/python/perl/etc code on a plethora of platforms and they will all work just fine.

Second, what is so great about being able to utilize open source tools and libraries? What if the open source tools and libraries are worse than the closed source ones?

What if the open source libraries are better?

BASIC is really not that different from C-based languages.

c++, however, is now heavily relying on object oriented programming.

It has a less intuitive syntax, more limits, and is generally less robust but I really don't see how BASIC makes you think like an idiot.

Did I not say it was debatable?

Also the backing community for BASIC has been lacking.

A programming language makes you think based on its design style, ie. Java makes you think object oriented and C makes you think procedurally. BASIC is procedural as well; therefore, you can learn to think like a procedural programmer through its use.

I think it would be much better to learn object oriented languages as they seem to be the modern trend.

Why do you say that BASIC makes people think like idiots?

Because I completely despise the language and wanted to initiate false propaganda.

I agree with just about everything you just said. Though I dont believe that python is the best

I didn't state that is the best, just that it is good. Perl is a good alternative to python. If your looking to delve into a bit of a harder language, java might be viable as well.

I didn't say that BASIC was practical.

Then why did you mention it. I could tell him about a plethora of things which are not practical.

First of all, it's super easy to learn on and it helps develop your mind to think like a programmer.

Whether it helps you to think like a programmer or an idiot is debatable I suppose.

How can you disagree with an example?

I disagree with the idea of the sample. You can use many languages for the example you stated.

There are many companies willing to pay for that kind of knowledge.

There are companies willing to pay people for almost all types of knowledge.

Not saying that python is a useless language or that people won't pay for it but it's much more likely to get a job with .net expertise.

I'm not suggesting to learn python for a job (even though it's a growing language), I'm suggesting it to learn the OO programming paradigm. C/C++ would be the best for the sake of getting a job.

Sure, there are other languages you could start on but BASIC is a very generic and easy to understand language. It doesn't get any easier than that.

There are other languages to start out with, and many of them would be better than basic. And whether or not it could be any easier is also debatable.

Joe

I'm sorry, but you should disregard everything the above person said. BASIC is a horrible language, and I suggest you steer clear of it.

I started out with python, which is a great language to teach you OOP (a paradigm most modern programming languages are based off). It also allows you to take full use of commenting and making clean/readable code.

I know use python to do misc. things around my desktop. I use it to write scripts that help me manage my code for other projects I work on as well as to automate a few tasks. I use c++ now so I can make use of the compiled language which is much faster than any interpreted language.

I also suggest that you stay away from anything that is platform dependent, ie the .NET framework. Of course your going to need to make some things platform dependent, but you should be able to write code which can compile and run on any platform. This will allow you to take full use of many of the open source tools and libraries out there.

Joe

EDIT: I forgot my favorite place to send people for comparisons. wiki's comparison of <insert item here>. Wiki's comparison of programming languages

I'm used to it being a full 24 hours before the account is available. This may have changed, however. If it's not in-tact within twenty-four hours of the sign up time, please notify us again.

Best of luck,

Joe

I used XAMPP to install mysql and php and configure it for me on windows. I don't use it anymore (I have mysql on debian now). It has good documentation and you should be able to easily set it up.

Hope it helps

Joe

Though you may get the allusion from wikipedia that we know a lot about anti-matter. This is, however, false. We know very little about anti-matter, and still have many large strides to go before we even begin to partially understand what it is and how it works. We must first understand anti-matter before we can even try to conceive some sort of way to use it in any use.

Us understanding anti-matter is still a long way off, but it as at lease feasibly within our reach with lots of hard work and research.

I plan on making a site in python once it's installed on the new server. I prefer it over php.

I don't like to post on the "comedy topics" much more, as I think they are spam. However I did find something which I thought was very clever and actually made me laugh. Do a google "I'm feeling lucky search" on "french victories".

Joe

I only go on to IRC chatrooms now. I use xchat on debian and the free one on windows. The people are much more competent, and the entire chat isn't a competition on seeing how many "tla's" you can use in one sentence fragment.

Rearranging the forums was what I wanted to be changed the most (it is really going to help cut back on spam). I think you should change the art and entertainment forum description so that it has to do with art related to web development and design rather than a nice place to get helions. I think the only forum that shouldn't explicitly be about web design is the other forum. This will help to actually make a large community since the community will be of people who are willing to collaborate on a common subject (by definition of the word), web design.

Other than that it's great.

Thanks djbob

Joe

Hmm, this interests me.

Could you describe your unique OS ideas?

How about a sample of code for one of your modules?

I havn't put much time into it (I got sidetracked with game development using the ogre3d rendering engine again), but I did manage to finish my custom kernel (based off the linux kernel). I plan on editing it more in the future, but I want to change the way in which data/prorams are accessed. I havn't actually implemented any new methods yet, but I am thinking on making streams more so queries.

wow thanks for the information,.my first goal when i am only 1st year college is developing OS that is a combination of LINUX(security) and MICROSOFT(user friendly). i hope someone could beat Bill Gates

It's not exactly what you think it is. It would take years for me to implement a simple gui system, decades to achieve the complexity of kde or gnome. You would need to have a large community to help you out with such a thing. You might want to google reactos, which is somewhat along the lines of what your talking about. It's an open source reverse engineered version of the nt kernel which has support for directX and pretty much all windows applications (natively).

You can test your OS with a virtual machine

My main bugs will probably be hardware related (I'm trying to optimize it to run on the i486 architecture). Using a virtual machine won't allow me to effectively test it in that aspect. I woul rather put my time into testing it on a slightly older computer that I have laying around.

which os is better

I personally use debian GNU/Linux and Windows XP. I think Mac is crap, but that is a biased opinion coming from me. The truth is that it really matters on what you want out of the operating system.

I knew there would be spam the moment I saw a whole page full of your replies...

I wish we need to get better moderation so we could stop this. This topic should be closed since it is so old. If anyone has specific questions about os dev they should make a new topic specific to their question rather than digging up an age old topic.

Joe has been giving the appropriate instruction to resolve this successfully (P.M. djbob). Unless he has any further questions there is no need to continue spamming this with stupid little marks.

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2 many joes.

EDIT: I had tab for the post open for a while so I did not see Frankies post prior to making my post. I didn't just post the post to gain the extra helions (believe me, I don't need them).

I changed my nickname so not to arouse any further trouble.

I suggest that you P.M. djbob explaining the situation.

PensiveSage, check out gamedev.net, google video tutorials rock (openGL/glut video tutorials). Also check out lazyfoo.net for sdl tutorials (really nice lib to use with openGL). Also check out the openGL site.

Joe