cluelusshusbund

Welcom new person :-) Which psychic do you thank is the mos accurate at perdictin the future.???

Who is you'r favort psychic.??? =============== After you name you'r favort psychic... have mor fun by goin to the link (in my sig) an guess what the jpg in this post is.!!! Hent::: Its a very comon insect.!!!

Yes... what hapens to people who dont reject false worship.??? ~Pasture Timmy A-Man.TTT

To me... a jugmental creator/God woud be a monster.!!! I worked wit a guy from Jordan... in highschool it was manditory that he study the Koran... he did not enjoy the class at all an was makin poor grades... he was told by som holey-guy that if his grades did not improve that he woud have to take the class agan the nest year... an he was so bummed-out at the prospect of havin to spend anuther year studyin the Koran... that he put all his effort into makin good grades so he woud pass the course... well... his grades becam so good... that som holey-guy was pressurin him to also becom som sort of holely-man... an the thouts of that was quite terrifyin to him... but his dad said not to wory about it... that he woud be able to choose somptin else for his carear... an soom after high school he cam to America... an was teechin economics at a college after he quit the job whare we worked together.!!! He missed his dad but not the religous pressure he was under in Jordan.!!!

Good pont... O well... i cant please everbody all the time :-) Everone is invited to go to the botom of this post;;; http://www.helionet.org/index/index.php?s=...ost&p=66013 to see the new "Guess What this is" jpg.!!!

So you want to... but thers no reason you want to.??? oK... so you clame thers no reason that you wanted to reply to my post... so it mus also be you'r clame... that my post was in no way an influence on you'r reply to me... true.??? In other words... is it you'r clame that readin my post had no influence on you'r thout process.???

So you want to... but thers no reason you want to.???

Are ther reasons you want to... an if so... what are the main reasons.???

So you say... an yet... the fact that i started this thred was the beginin of the chain of events which has led you to doin esactly what you'r doin now (readin my post)... an that jus dont square-up wit you'r clame that you have not been influenced by others... yes.???

Yes i agree... everthang hapens for a reason (ie... everthang is caused... an the unbroken causal chain of events leaves no room for "free will"... eh).!!! But mor to the topic... i will ware my 1 yellow star (bad rating) as a badge of courage an cary on :-) PS In the second grade... when we did somptin good... the teecher woud stick a little star on our forhead

Well... one mans trash is anuther mans treasure.!!! PS Mayb my sinse of humor will get me bumped up to 2 stars :-)

Yes... thats the chain of events which led you to do esactly what you did... an all the while... you was under the illusion of free will... ie... it seemed to "you"... that ther was a "you" who was actualy in charge of you'r actions.!!! An after you read this reply... ther will be no free will reaction on you'r part... you will respond esactly as you are influenced to respond.!!! Both the "chain of events" as you call it and my decision to reply are not influenced. If I didn't want to respond, I wouldn't. There was no one telling me to reply to this, but I did. Sinse you clame ther wasnt a chain of events that influenced you to respond... why did you respond.???

All we can do is use the tools we have... an the bes way i know of to understan ourselfs an the universe in which we live is by usin the scientific method... so what do you base the concept "that we do have free will" on.???

Well i have only been here for a few days... no tellin how many stars i will have after a few weeks... kinda like... in the 4th grade my iq was alredy up to 89 *(it was suposed to be a secerete but i overherd school officials talkin to mom an dad about it)... an i have learned lots of stuff sinse then so my iq is prolly close to 100% by now.!!! *When the man an woman from school cam to the house to talk to mom an dad i was told to go to my room... but i sneeked out an herd paart of what they was sayin about me... an the school people told mom an dad... that wit my iq of 89 i shoud be in a special class... but mom seemed very much agans it... i supose she figered i mite get "the big head" from bein in a special class... an that mite cause me to look down on... or make fun of the kids still in the regular classes... whatever... i stayed put in my regular class so aparently mom got her way.!!!

Yes... thats the chain of events which led you to do esactly what you did... an all the while... you was under the illusion of free will... ie... it seemed to "you"... that ther was a "you" who was actualy in charge of you'r actions.!!! An after you read this reply... ther will be no free will reaction on you'r part... you will respond esactly as you are influenced to respond.!!!

oK... thanks... an also... thanks to whoever gave me a yellow star :-) I will look thangs over an try to undeerstan the diference between Helio "Net" an "Host".!!!

At the botton of a post it says::: Edit Quote Reply What is the function of the "Quote" button.??? ------------------------ On my profile page thers a place whare it says "Rating" an 1 star is glowin yellow... what determines how many stars glow yellow.??? -------------- When i have made the las post in a thred... is ther a way to make anuther post in that thred so it will be a seperate post... ie... not a part of the prevous post i made in that thred.???

Was ther reasons that you joined.???

So in you'r story... was the influences ignored... or did the influences determin the choise that was made.??? Can you give an esample of a free will choise you have made.???

NOTE::: If ther are any further replys to this thred... please keep in mind that the "Intended topic for discussion" is whether or not a person can "deserve" punishment.!!!

I thank evidence ponts to a deterministic universe... an Zero evidence that we have "free will" (the ability to make un-influenced choises)... what do you thank.???

Good queston... an no it ant a bird of prey... but it loves earth worms.!!! Here a pitcher of its chest.!!! http://ptim.heliohost.org/GuessGameHeliohost/BirdChest.jpg Edit::: oK... this one is to hard for you to guess so here is a complete jpg... a baby Robin.!!! http://ptim.heliohost.org/GuessGameHelioho...irdComplete.jpg ----------------------- NEW JPG TO GUESS Below is mos of the head... an one of the eyes of a very common creature... Guess what it is.!!! http://ptim.heliohost.org/GuessGameHeliohost/Aguess.jpg

No... not an Osprey.!!! This bird weighs no mor than 3 oz as an adult.!!! I will add mor pitchers of it to this post later on.!!!

Im selective about the personal information i give out.!!! Whats the reason you want that information.???