I'll be completely honest: I didn't really read any of the above; just skimmed through some of it.
Here is my contribution:
William James, father of American psychology, tells of meeting an old lady who told him the Earth rested on the back of a huge turtle. "But, my dear lady", Professor James asked, as politely as possible, "what holds up the turtle?" "Ah", she said, "that's easy. He is standing on the back of another turtle." "Oh, I see", said Professor James, still being polite. "But would you be so good as to tell me what holds up the second turtle?" "It's no use, Professor", said the old lady, realizing he was trying to lead her into a logical trap. "It's turtles-turtles-turtles, all the way!"
So, in conclusion: IT'S TURTLES, ALL THE WAY DOWN!!! Amen.
The problem with "It's turtles-turtles-turtles, all the way!", is that who made the first turtle. If there is no first turtle than how can we exist. If to reach the first turtle you need an infinite amount of time, than to reach the present state you would also need an infinite amount of time. Meaning that we cannot exist
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